Denmark reportedly withdraws Chat Control proposal following controversy

layer8 | 424 points

I’m continually astounded that so many people, faced with a societal problem, reflexively turn to “Hmmm, perhaps if we monitored and read and listened to every single thing that every person does, all of the time…”

As though it would 1) be a practical possibility and 2) be effective.

Compounding the issue is that the more technology can solve #1, the more these people fixate on it as the solution without regards to the lack of #2.

I wish there were a way, once and for all, to prevent this ridiculous idea from taking hold over and over again. If I could get a hold of such people when these ideas were in their infancy… perhaps I should monitor everything everyone does and watch for people considering the same as a solution to their problem… ah well, no, still don’t see how that follows logically as a reasonable solution.

ineedasername | 9 hours ago

Protecting children is critically important, but turning every citizen into a potential suspect by default? That's not justice, that’s just lazy policy design. Honestly, this feels like one of those rare moments where political pressure and public backlash actually worked...

KurSix | 18 minutes ago

> The last chance for an agreement under Danish leadership is in December; the government in Copenhagen apparently preferred a compromise without chat control to no agreement at all. The current regulation, which allows the large platform providers to voluntarily and actively search for potential depictions of abuse, expires next spring after extension. It is precisely this voluntariness that Denmark's Minister of Justice now wants to codify within the framework of the future CSA regulation, which also contains a multitude of other, less controversial projects. [1]

Doesn't sound like it is over yet - only delayed.

[1] https://www.heise.de/en/news/Denmark-surprisingly-abandons-p...

FinnKuhn | 13 hours ago

It's interesting that Peter Hummelgaard's former party comrade Henrik Sass Larsen recently got 4 months of prison for possession of child porn; 6200 pictures and 2200 videos.

So we are to believe Hummelgaard wants to protect children by enabling vast surveillance, so all the bad offenders out there can get ... 4 months in prison.

Its not really adding up. And he still hasn't presented any argument for the thing except that you are pro child abuse if you don't agree with him. I'm at the point where I hope he's corrupt and its not just all about power for him.

tokai | 13 hours ago

I don’t trust Peter Hummelgaard at all. The way he is pushing for this law seems suspicious and I am wondering if there is a third party nudging him to pursue it. Maybe promising some position in the EU parlament.

zero0529 | 12 hours ago
verdverm | 14 hours ago

Its like a ocean wave, crashing against the cliff, year in, year out, proposal after proposal, waiting for that final atrocity, justifying pushing it through. The white cliffs of Dover, with no plan on how to regain one day that land, once the crisis subsides. And no mechanism to prevent a permanent crisis, because the controls justify the manufacturing of endless crisis.

honkostani | 13 hours ago

Let's rebrand and try again!

laxd | 14 hours ago

Good. I was tired of it. Denmark is a great place to live but chat control wtf

hoppp | 10 hours ago

If I was a conspiracy theorist I might think that the ruling class who so desperately want these kinds of powers are intentionally dividing nations and breaking down social cohesion so the populace must turn to the governments for protection. They're hoping to create societies where the people will beg them to scan private messages rather than to demand rights.

Give it another 10 years the way things are going, and I'm sure it will be back.

stinkbeetle | 13 hours ago
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| 13 hours ago

HN is being affected by the American love of conspiracy once more. In reality:

Danes trust their state - for good reason. But this is obviously taking it too far.

Its not that Peter Hummelgaard is trying to create a spy state. He just doesn’t understand tech.

Simple as that.

burnerzzzzz | 5 hours ago

Did they apologize for proposing it in the first place?

ginko | 13 hours ago

For now. It will return unless we end the careers of the politicians who were grasping for such absolute surveillance powers.

kragen | 6 hours ago

Why does the government think it is their job to save people from themselves in the first place?

ranger_danger | 10 hours ago

Withdraws it for now.

bobsmooth | 13 hours ago

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theturtle | 13 hours ago

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unit149 | 7 hours ago

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zigzagger11 | 13 hours ago