I ran into them at Burning \Man in the early aughts. They&#x27;re awesome!

I&#x27;m not finding the exact one I was at (I saw them at the 2023 conference) but here is one from 2017- <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=lk9-PMKZPAY" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=lk9-PMKZPAY</a>

This site is an &quot;old internet&quot; gem and I hope it never changes. I saw Earth and Fire (the creators of the project) speak at the Psychedelic Science conference a few years ago, quite a treat! Genuinely great people oozing integrity

Without erowid I would have tried datura.

This site helped me tremendously in my youth, with staying safe and giving me actual knowledge about different chemicals, rather than the complete abstinence information from programs like DARE. At one point, I found that a psychoactive chemical I was taking had a serious side effect with a prescription I was taking, and that information was nowhere to be found through web searches. Without Erowid, I definitely would have permanently damaged my liver! I don&#x27;t think we should necessarily be marketing psychoactives to the youth, but I&#x27;m glad that this type of information is available for those that choose to search for it.

&gt; An experience with ModafinilWell, there went two hours of my morning, and I only made it halfway through the comments.

Some previous discussions of Erowid:What do people see when they&#x27;re tripping? Analyzing Erowid&#x27;s trip reports (263 comments): <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=43171007">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=43171007</a>An Experience with Modafinil (343 comments): <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=30067264">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=30067264</a>

As did I, and I made a pretty good dent in it!

When I was young, I looked at this site like a TODO list...

I first came across Erowid in college when my friends were getting me into psychedelics. It’s an incredibly informative site, and as a kid who read the warning labels on _everything_, it really helped me feel comfortable.

I ended up trying them around 2 decades ago (I do not recommend lol) and learned so much from that site. The information about the long time for it to take effect (1.5 hours AFAIK), warnings to take the right dose and no more, and the vision side effects the next day, along with horror stories of what could go wrong, Erowid probably saved us a trip to the ER or even worse.Love those guys, incredible resource.

We did exactly the same :) The thornapple trip reports were particularly nasty.

I&#x27;ve spent a lot of time reading those. They are entertaining and terrifying.Erowid&#x27;s a really good source of &quot;Hey, you know, maybe I don&#x27;t want to get involved in that&quot; at times.

My friends and I used to visit this site a lot in high school and got kicks out of reading experiences for the more &quot;hardcore&quot; drugs like nightshade. Who knows how many of them were legit, but it was a great stoner activity. Glad to see this site is still around.

I love erowid. It is a very thorouly handcrafted factual database of real information on any drug, including personal experiences, hepatoxicity, addixtiveness, etc. without any one sided agenda. I hope it stays for many years

Absolutely critically experience vaults here. In my youth these were invaluable

Likely. I spent a lot of my youth exploring the idea that the brain is sort of like a radio that could be tuned to different layers of reality using psychoactives. Also had a bit of a love affair with DMT for awhile, as well as trying to find the right combo of “soft” drugs that would induce hypnogogic dream states.As fruity as all that sounds, I learned a lot about chemistry and how to conduct (or not conduct, perhaps), verifiable research, which is an important part of my thinking today as we navigate an ever-increasing flood of claims about tech, medicine and mental health. I have to imagine HN attracts some pretty analytical minds by default, my own being novice, at best.I have a lot of great respect for the folks at erowid and I’m glad to see they’re still around.

Erowid facilitated my deep dive into psychedelics in 2010 or so. Such a treasure trove on information about harm reduction, dosage, etc.My old bad trip was meticulously documented and is published on the site (don’t mix cannabis with psychedelics, yo! You don’t wanna get paranoid as the walls are melting)Funny aside: I think I spent 13 BTC to buy some LSD on the dark web at the time. Years later, the change from that transaction was enough to pay a month’s rent in London. Not only I spent what is a small fortune today, but the parcel was seized by the authorities so I never had the pleasure of trying LSD. Maybe one day…

Reading Erowid trip reports persuaded me to try high dose tripping on Robitussin (DXM). From Wikipedia:The first plateau (1.5 to 2.5 mg per kg body weight) is described as having euphoria, auditory changes, mild stimulation, and change in perception of gravity.The second plateau (2.5 to 7.5 mg&#x2F;kg) causes intense euphoria, vivid imagination, and closed-eye hallucinations.I like recovered.org&#x27;s description of fourth plateau dose experiences:The fourth plateau (at extremely high doses) can cause complete disconnection from reality, a sense of entering “another universe,” and a loss of sensory contact with the environment.Sounds about right. Definitely kills some brain cells, but a hell of a ride. Would not recommend it if you don&#x27;t like dissociatives.

I&#x27;m sure there&#x27;s already a significant overlap.

This feels like a good audience for Erowid.

And for the modern era there is Drugslab, a Dutch channel where the hosts describe drugs, take them on camera, and show their experiences.<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;@Drugslab" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;@Drugslab</a>

Find a source, get a test kit, test meticulously, stick to the source. If you&#x27;re getting a new source, test again and try a very small dose first.Also, besides Erowid, other reliable information sources have popped up. Psychonautwiki, tripsit.me for example.Some countries have anonymous test pipelines via hospitals or universities, but it&#x27;s less common. Test kits are available online.

There used to be some darkweb marketplaces that were extremely reliable for psychedelics, for example &quot;The Majestic Garden&quot; was an old PHP message board which specialized in psychedelics and had a strict whitelist about what substances could be sold. TMG has since shut down unfortunately, but there are lots of other providers. Some &quot;well-known&quot; manufacturers used to hang around TMG, and if a listing on some other site mentions that it&#x27;s their LSD then IMO it&#x27;s a good place to start. General methodology is to get a burner laptop running some secure *nix OS (ie. Tails), acquire some Monero, navigate to an appropriate marketplace via Tor, and make your purchase. Use your real address and name for the shipping; it seems scary but in the US it&#x27;s the most secure way (least likely to trigger a warrant being issued to search your package). Once that&#x27;s done you head over to dancesafe.org on your normal laptop and order what they recommend for LSD reagent testing. Then you wait for everything to arrive, follow the instructions in the reagent testing kit, and if everything comes out &quot;okay&quot; then you&#x27;re good to go.In general it&#x27;s fairly rare for someone to sell &quot;fake&quot; or &quot;cut&quot; LSD. This is for two broad reasons:1. LSD isn&#x27;t addictive in the same way as some other illegal substances, so there&#x27;s much less profit in faking it. If you sell someone fake LSD and they have an awful trip they&#x27;re never going to buy from you again and you&#x27;ve burned a profit stream. If you sell someone coke cut with meth they&#x27;re probably going to come back anyways, because they&#x27;re hooked on the drug.2. The things you might adulterate or fake LSD with (ex. NBOMe) are also somewhat difficult and expensive to make, so it&#x27;s not like one would really save much time or money. If you&#x27;re trying to burn someone in an LSD sale, the simplest and most profitable thing to do would be to just sell empty blotter paper, rather than wasting research chemicals you could potentially sell to some psychonaut with the correct label.With that said NBOMe and some other synthetics have been cropping up in the last 20-ish years. If someone at a party or festival is selling single tabs that&#x27;s definitely the place where you might get burned with NBOMe, since by the time your trip ends the dealer will be long gone. In general it&#x27;s always best to test everything you ingest, and dancesafe.org is definitely the place to get info on how to test stuff.

you would go to where trustworthy people are selling it. you would have your friend try it first if purchased from random street dealer. i think many of these get confused in the street, like how would you know it is true lsd and not some other research chemical?in america there are pockets of psychadelic support that would provide clean sources, you&#x27;d maybe network with them through campus norml groups, or that cool chemistry TA. these people have zero incentive to sell you something different or contaminate it with anything (more work).when it is dosed correctly, you can take a small dose of lsd and see if it is the effect you recognize or something else. definitely just do some homework to make sure that it can be trusted.

Interesting. Can you clarify this part?&gt; there&#x27;s no reason to have LSD and an adulterantWhy is that? From what I understand LSD is pretty challenging to produce, so isn&#x27;t there an advantage to an unscrupulous producer using something easier&#x2F;cheaper?

How does your friend receive the mailed packages?

- Buy on the darkweb. Marketplaces exist with established vendors, open forums, feedback, customer support, escrow... I could write a long text about how this is an infinitely better way to do things for all concerned than to &quot;force&quot; non-violent people to interact with violent drug traders and adulterated products, but let&#x27;s leave that for now. You can pay with Monero for untraceability.- Test what you get. Some stuff being sold as LSD might actually be another synthetic psychedelic, potentially dangerous (unlike LSD). So test: even in jurisdictions in which LSD is banned, you can easily buy tests; for LSD, this would be Erhrlich&#x27;s reagent. If it tests positive, and since there&#x27;s no reason to have LSD and an adulterant (unlike other drugs such as cocaine), you&#x27;re safe.Of course, this is what my friend told me.

DMT vape pens are &quot;legally&quot; available in parts of Canada last I checked.

So easy hell my legal weed dealer delivers lsd now and shrooms can be bought from head shops all day long

Back in the day (90s and before) the other substances that could fit on a blotter and still have an effect were very, very niche, and somehow LSD was very very cheap so if it worked at all it was probably the real thing.&gt; The thought of ingesting some substance from dubious sources, that could be contaminated with absolutely anythingPeople used to trust networks of friends, rather than stereotypical &#x27;gangs&#x27; or &#x27;dealers&#x27;. The problem now is that there is so much other stuff floating around that nearly anything you go after could be nearly anything else.In the UK there is a service called WEDINOS, which is of interest in this area - you can anonymously submit them a sample of whatever it is and they will publish the result on their website. They use the data to track drugs (their particular interest is novel or &#x27;emerging&#x27; drugs) around the country. You basically get a number, fill in a form and post it to them alongside a sample, and they will do GCMS. You&#x27;re not supposed to send them things you know are illegal, but ... looking at the website people do, a lot.As the other poster mentions reagent tests are available fairly widely and can give you a rough idea.Also in many countries some LSD derivatives are not (yet) illegal, and in those it is quite often possible to order things like 1P-LSD, which is (as far as can be ascertained) a pro-drug that is quickly metabolised into LSD, on the open internet.

I found a hippie with a jar of liquid lsd in a safe.You just gotta trust people and be a Guinea pig, if you aren’t going to test drugs you buy.

I&#x27;m curious how people go about finding safe sources for something like LSD (to be clear I&#x27;m not asking for anyone to give specific details, just an explanation). While psilocybin is easy to try safely (just travel to a place where it is legal), LSD is illegal in every jurisdiction as far as I know. The thought of ingesting some substance from dubious sources, that could be contaminated with absolutely anything, terrifies me and I honestly don&#x27;t know how people bring themselves to take this kind of risk. Am I missing the point and there is some safe underground supply chain for this sort of thing?

Ah Erowid, grew up in front of my computer and on irc chat rooms; that website taught me a lot. I submitted a few trip reports back in the day.

This was my Most Valued Resource of the old internet.

when I was a teenager back in web pre-alpha erowid either put me in grave danger or saved my life, depending on whether you emphasize the drug use or the fact that I survived it relatively unscathed

&quot;news&quot;ahahaaha you people just found out about this?!&gt;?!

Erowid - Documenting the Complex Relationship Between Humans and Psychoactives