Microsoft only lets you opt out of AI photo scanning 3x a year

dmitrygr | 295 points

"You can only turn off this setting 3 times a year."

Astonishing. They clearly feel their users have no choice but to accept this onerous and ridiculous requirement. As if users wouldn't understand that they'd have to go way out of their way to write the code which enforces this outcome. All for a feature which provides me dubious benefit. I know who the people in my photographs are. Why is Microsoft so eager to also be able to know this?

Privacy legislation is clearly lacking. This type of action should bring the hammer down swiftly and soundly upon these gross and inappropriate corporate decision makers. Microsoft has needed that hammer blow for quite some time now. This should make that obvious. I guess I'll hold my breath while I see how Congress responds.

themafia | 4 hours ago

You can really tell that Microsoft has adopted advertising as a major line of business.

The privacy violations they are racking up are very reminiscent of prior behavior we've seen from Facebook and Google.

GeekyBear | 3 hours ago

Did anyone notice that Microsoft never replied any of the asked questions, but deflected them?

They are exactly where I left them 20 years ago.

It's very sad that I can't stop using them again for doing this.

bayindirh | 3 hours ago

> and follow Microsoft's compliance with General Data Protection Regulation

Not in a million years. See you in court. As often, just because a press statement says something, it's not necessarily true and maybe only used to defuse public perception.

rf15 | 4 hours ago

Growing up, Microsoft dominance felt so strong. 3 decades later, there’s a really high chance my kids will never own or use a windows machine (unless their jobs gives them one).

syntaxing | an hour ago

Truly bizarre. I'm so glad I detached from Windows a few years back, and now when I have to use it or another MS product (eg an Xbox) it's such an unpleasant experience, like notification hell with access control checks to read the notifications.

The sad thing is that they've made it this way, as opposed to Windows being inherently deficient; it used to be a great blend of GUI convenience with ready access to advanced functionality for those who wanted it, whereas MacOS used to hide technical things from a user a bit too much and Linux desktop environments felt primitive. Nowadays MS seems to think of its users as if they were employees or livestock rather than customers.

anigbrowl | 2 hours ago

I was afraid for the EU economy, but after this declaration I'm reassured that Microsoft will pay for my grand kids' education in 30 years.

LunaSea | 3 hours ago

Does this mean that when you disable, all labels are deleted, and when you turn it back on it has to re-scan all of your photos? Could this be a cost-saving measure?

correlator | 2 hours ago

Microsoft in the past few years has totally lost it's mind, it's ruining nearly everything it touches and I can't understand why

smileson2 | 3 hours ago

This made me look up if you can disable iOS photo scanning and you can’t. Hmm.

gessha | an hour ago

I don't really see the issue. If you don't want the face recognition feature, then you'll turn it off once, and that's that. Maybe if you're unsure, you might turn it off, and then back on, and then back off again. But what's the use case where you'd want to do this more than 3x per year?

Presumably, it's somewhat expensive to run face recognition on all of your photos. When you turn it off, they have to throw away the index (they'd better be doing this for privacy reasons), and then rebuild it from scratch when you turn the feature on again.

jonas21 | 4 hours ago

Microsoft: forces OneDrive on users via dark pattern dialogs that many users just accept

Users: save files "on their PC" (they think)

Microsoft: Rolls out AI photo-scanning feature to unknowing users intending to learn something.

Users: WTF? And there are rules on turning it on and off?

Microsoft: We have nothing more to share at this time.

Favorite quote from the article:

> [Microsoft's publicist chose not to answer this question.]

leakycap | 4 hours ago

This is once again strongly suggesting that Microsoft is thoroughly doomed if the money they've dumped into AI doesn't pan out. It seems to me that if your company is tied to Microsoft's cloud platform, you should probably consider moving away as quickly as you can. Paying the vmware tax and moving eveyrthing in house is probably a better move at this point.

bigbuppo | 2 hours ago

Seems obvious they actually mean to limit the number of times you can opt in. Very poor choice of words.

fancyfredbot | 4 hours ago

How is this not a revenge porn or something? If I upload sensitive photos somewhere, it is 5 years prison sentence! CEO of Microsoft can do that billion times!

thrownfjfkfmofn | 4 hours ago

I was quite happy for a couple years to just use windows and wsl. Fully switched to Linux at home and Linux VM's at work. The thirst and desperation to make AI work gives me the creeps more than usual.

fishmicrowaver | 3 hours ago

Reminder: Microsoft owns Github and NPM.

yencabulator | 5 minutes ago

It really seems as though Microsoft has total contempt for their retail/individual customers. They do a lot to inconvenience those users, and it often seems gratuitous and unnecessary. (As it does in this case.)

...I guess Microsoft believes that they're making up for it in AI and B2B/Cloud service sales? Or that customers are just so locked-in that there's genuinely no alternative? I don't believe that the latter is true, and it's hard to come back from a badly tarnished brand. Won't be long before the average consumer hates Microsoft as much as they hate HP (printers).

A_D_E_P_T | 2 hours ago

> Slashdot: What's the reason OneDrive tells users this setting can only be turned off 3 times a year? (And are those any three times — or does that mean three specific days, like Christmas, New Year's Day, etc.)

> [Microsoft's publicist chose not to answer this question.]

thaumasiotes | 28 minutes ago

Year of the Linux desktop edges ever closer.

anarticle | 2 hours ago

Presumably you just need to turn it off once, right?

ptrl600 | 2 hours ago

Microsoft is such a scummy company. They always were but they've become even worse since they've gone all in on AI.

I wonder if this is also a thing for their EU users. I can think of a few laws this violates.

wkat4242 | 2 hours ago

There's a great solution to this.

Just stop using Microsoft shit. It's a lot easier than untangling yourself from Google.

surgical_fire | 3 hours ago

Crossposting slashdot?

Heaven forfend!

_wire_ | 5 hours ago

> I uploaded a photo on my phone to Microsoft's

That's your problem right there.

> Microsoft only lets you opt out of AI photo scanning

Their _UI_ says they let you opt out. I wouldn't bet on that actually being the case. At the very least - a copy of your photos goes to the US government, and they do whatever they want with it.

einpoklum | an hour ago

Makes me want to download and install windows, and store a picture of my hairy brown nutsack with googly eyes on it.

exe34 | 3 hours ago

I think a call to Australia’s privacy commissioner might be in order.

chris_wot | 3 hours ago

I've never seen a better case for uploading endless AI slop photos.

LogicFailsMe | 3 hours ago

Isn't it cute when there's absolutely no rationale behind a new rule, and it's simply an incursion made in order to break down a boundary?

Look, scanning with AI is available!

Wow, scanning with AI is now free for everyone!

What? Scanning with AI is now opt-out?

Why would opting-out be made time-limited?

WTF, what's so special about 3x a year? Is it because it's the magic number?

Ah, the setting's gone again, I guess I can relax. I guess the market wanted this great feature, or else they wouldn't have gradually forced it on us. Anyway, you're a weird techie for noticing it. What do you have to hide?

pessimizer | 2 hours ago

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theturtle | 3 hours ago